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Jeremy Prince's avatar

Love the post, Joseph! So much to discuss. Lots of great hits on target that open up beautiful new questions. This is what I love so much about your writings!

It should be noted that while Paul gave much of the content for 1 Thessalonians, it was mostly penned by the Silas (Paul confirms it himself), who also penned 1 Peter for Shimon ha-Kefa. (As I posted yesterday, I suspect Silas also penned the Epistle to the Hebrews.)

Generally, it’s something a categorical mistake to pair anything from Paul’s letters to the gospels, especially Mark and Matthew, but especially when they’re not actually discussing the same experience or “event”.

I genuinely think a better translation of Mark is needed as I think that the Greek, the Latin, and the English have done horrible linguistic and conceptual violence to the Hebrew cosmological rendering here.

“Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”

This is a standard translation, very common - totally incorrect.

“I insist to you that some here today, standing among you, will not [have] taste[d] death by the time the Commonwealth of YHWH has arrived with full authority.”

This is how I would more faithfully render this text from within a Hebrew-Yahwistic cosmological milieu rather than a Greek eschatological one. Theos, Deus, “God” is never the same as YHWH. Theos is a Goyim approximation for YHWH, but they are not the same: conceptually, ontologically, expressively.

More, it might be worth remembering that there is no “end” to the world in ancient Yahwistic cosmological structures. Yehoshua never believed or claimed that *the world was ending*. His chroniclers in the gospels spoke often about the “age” ending, but that is not Greek eschatology, it’s prophetic pattern-recognition within Yahwistic cosmological framings.

YHWH’s power last for all time, “the fullness of the age” - so how can the world, where YHWH’s active force is moving eternally, end? This is never addressed in Christian eschatological investigations.

Only entropy wants the world to end. Only entropy wants us to focus on an eschaton, and in doing so we help it accomplish its own telos.

YHWH exists, as Genesis 1 and John 3 make so abundantly clear, to prevent the end. To restore to life. To renew the world, not to end it. To transition from scarcity into abundance, from adversarialism to collaboration, from strife to peace - all through the Covenant.

My read on John is that he wants us to see that YHWH is attempting not to Jubilee a nation, as Moshe did, or even the whole of humanity, as Yehoshua did, but the whole of the Kosmos - every atom of the known and unknown universe, rescued from “formlessness and void”, restored and resurrected into the life of the Kosmos, for whom YHWH has radical agape (a love so powerful that it fuses two things together such that new life and power is generated in the fusion, the integration, the “holy” and “perfected”).

His gospel, after chapter 3, is demonstration after demonstration of Yehoshua performing this Kosmic restoration at a microcosmic level: among individuated humans, restoring them to community, to Covenantal rhythms and protections, through “commandment-keeping” (fidelity to Torah).

It’s very, very clear (with a decent translation) that Yehoshua believed that a major shift in the world’s operating systems was about to occur, and he was confident (or Mark, Matthew, and John were confident) that the Commonwealth of YHWH was about to break through.

And, textually, this “event” he was prophesying about is explained at Pentecost: “the Commonwealth of YHWH arriving with authority.”

What happens after Pentecost? The official founding of the Jerusalem Kehilla (“assembly”), the purchase of land outside town, the formation of the first community-village, etc.: the Commonwealth of YHWH arriving (authority at Pentecost, with the Breath of Wholeness manifesting as tongues of the Flame; since the flames didn’t hurt the Apostles, I presume the image is meant to invoke the same Flame as at the Burning Bush, conferring Messianic authority to the Twelve from Yehoshua and Yohanan).

It’s always tempting to think about “the end of the world” and its very, very easy to project OUR beliefs about this, which have been shaped by bad translations and worse theology for nearly twenty centuries - a hundred lifetimes of distance between us and them.

We are focused about the end of the world. He was not. He was focused on helping the vulnerable survive the transition of operating systems and restoring the immune system response to the virus of empire: Covenant.

Ralph Rickenbach's avatar

I am still puzzled how we narrowed and redefined the term "apocalyptic" to mean "about the end of the world" when it means "unveiling." Before I went to church (regularly) at 23, I had come to believe that all the "end of the world" preachings by Jesus were pointing to the cross and resurrection, and the "judgment" was the "setting into order" that happened there. I have returned to this interpretation now in my later years.

I am aware that this means that Paul and some other early writers already misinterpreted Jesus' teaching. Or didn't they? What if we saw their writings in that way and in that connotation?

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