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Justin D Bergen's avatar

I just want to preface that I really appreciate your page! One of my favourites on here and I love your honesty as well— I’d love to push back on this statement a little.

“I’ve never felt God’s presence the way people describe. I’ve never experienced anything I would call supernatural.

Do I wait for the day that I do? What if it never comes? Is there a thought process that will make me a believer? What is it?”

I think you have experienced God! You experience supernatural things every day. The sun in the sky giving us light, the trees breathing out essential oxygen for us only to be met with our essential carbon dioxide, the miracle of life at all, never mind just the basic concept of human consciousness and conception. The rotation of planets and the irreducible complexities of anatomical systems. From your testimony, when you pray, love, are generous, etc, you experience something. You are surrounded by miracles man. That’s God speaking to you.

And Joseph, you do believe! Everything you do is based on faith. You have faith that your wife isn’t going to leave, that the chairs you sit in won’t break, the planes you fly on won’t crash, the banks where you put your money won’t fail. What is one more step of faith towards Christ?

I don’t think it’s an evidence issue, at all. Because there is compelling biblical and historical evidence that Christ believed himself to be God incarnate (I have written an article on this, and also why the Trinity matters, if you are interested).

There is no magical thought process, and for many people there is no blinding Damascus Road moment. For others it’s an Emmaus Road experience like in Luke 24 where Christ appears as an unrecognized stranger invited in to break bread, and for others it’s from simply reading the Scriptures like the Ethiopian eunuch did in Acts 8.

Belief is first and foremost a choice that we make based on one part of the picture, even before we see the full picture. That apocalyptic prophet you see is just one part of the whole.

I am praying for you brother, not just that you will see Christ in all his glory, but that you and your family would be blessed and encouraged, and that you would experience the power and love of God.

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I think I hear what you are saying, Joseph. I used to be a church attending person but realized that I didn’t really believe that Jesus was God or that he was the only way to God. I did not have a “personal relationship with Jesus.” So I started telling myself and everyone that I was not a Christian, even though I attended church, retreats, etc. I was seeking Truth. I spent over 3 years in pain living with the honest fact that I did not and could not believe in claims of Jesus as God yet I was drawn to try to find out. I believed that as a true skeptic and a doubting Thomas myself, it was impossible to ever prove (intellectually/philosophically) the existence of God and claim of Jesus as God.

The question I have for you is: are you sincerely seeking Jesus as God from your heart? Are you willing to give up everything you have to find your answer and then to follow and serve Jesus? If you are, then Jesus will reveal himself to you, I have no doubt, and answer all your questions in ways you do not expect.

My concern for you Joseph is that in your article you already said that you are not ready or willing to give up all your possessions to personally know Jesus as God and follow him, who is eternal life. I just hope and pray that one day you will desire to know Jesus as the way, the truth, and the life so much that you would be able to give your life for him. Like they say, when the student is ready, the teacher will show up.

For me, I came to know the truth of Jesus through the power of his Holy Spirit. There could be no other way. It had to be this way for me because no intellectual, historical, or philosophical argument or evidence was enough for me. I had an encounter with the Holy Spirit (or the Spirit of Jesus) in whose presence I trembled and shook for hours and entered into state of awe inside a chapel whose fourth door miraculously opened for me in an otherwise locked church. After that night, for 4-6 months I was constantly trembling, filled with sense of awe, joy, and even ecstasy just about everyday. I became so convinced in the truth and divinity of Jesus that I prayed God take these experiences away since I no longer needed them to convince me.

But, before all of this happened to me, I prayed to God from the bottom of my heart the following prayer: “Jesus, if you are who you and others say you are, if you are the way, the truth, and the life, then reveal yourself to me and let me inside this locked chapel and I will serve you and your people for the rest of my life.” Then, a door to the chapel miraculously opened and when I walked inside alone on a Friday night, the Holy Spirit came upon me for the first time in my life, and I’ve never doubted ever again. That was 37 years ago.

It is my personal belief that you need to know the supernatural power the Holy Spirit, which you can only receive if your heart conditions are right in God’s eyes. And only God is the judge of our hearts. I hope and pray that one day your heart will be ready to offer everything to Jesus and God the Father. God is faithful and trustworthy, and you will be blessed eternally.

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